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		<title>By: Ubuntu Podcast Episode#8 &#171; softaoglu.com</title>
		<link>http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/whats-behind-gregkhs-latest-rant/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu Podcast Episode#8 &#171; softaoglu.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dustin Kirkland, who also works for Canonical, points out some interesting numbers: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ¿Contribuye Canonical al desarrollo de GNU/Linux?</title>
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		<dc:creator>¿Contribuye Canonical al desarrollo de GNU/Linux?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] todo, después de leer el más que interesante post de Dustin Kirkland, empleado de Canonical en estos momentos, y que trabajó desde 2000 hasta 2008 en IBM, lo que le da [...]</description>
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		<title>By: La contribución de Canonical a Linux &#171; Zona Tux</title>
		<link>http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/whats-behind-gregkhs-latest-rant/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>La contribución de Canonical a Linux &#171; Zona Tux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] charla. En la segunda respuesta, se cuestiona la presunta imparcialidad del ponente y se dan unas estadísticas muy interesantes que toda persona interesada en Linux debería conocer, respondiendo a la pregunta: ¿quiénes son [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu Podcast by the Ubuntu Georgia LoCo - Ubuntu Podcast Episode#8</title>
		<link>http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/whats-behind-gregkhs-latest-rant/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu Podcast by the Ubuntu Georgia LoCo - Ubuntu Podcast Episode#8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dustin Kirkland, who also works for Canonical, points out some interesting numbers: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ancora a doverne parlare &#171; Suoko&#8217;s Weblog: waiting for his Maiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>ancora a doverne parlare &#171; Suoko&#8217;s Weblog: waiting for his Maiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] articolo  suoko @ 12:35 am [archiviato in Uncategorized [...]</description>
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		<title>By: verbalshadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>verbalshadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ruel24 &amp; mutluinek

Even if Canonical/Ubuntu only spent 10 million(US$,£,?? not sure where this number comes from) a year on marketing. That is 10mil that no one else would spend in there place and it doesn&#039;t matter what the actual amount is the same holds true. They have proven success in marketing and that IMO brings more to the Linux table than they would theoretically bring by spending it on programmers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ruel24 &amp; mutluinek</p>
<p>Even if Canonical/Ubuntu only spent 10 million(US$,£,?? not sure where this number comes from) a year on marketing. That is 10mil that no one else would spend in there place and it doesn&#8217;t matter what the actual amount is the same holds true. They have proven success in marketing and that IMO brings more to the Linux table than they would theoretically bring by spending it on programmers.</p>
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		<title>By: mutluinek</title>
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		<dc:creator>mutluinek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin, I think you have done a good job putting this whole issue into perspective with regard to the competition between canonical, novell and red hat.

However, your argument that &quot;Greg’s &#039;Linux ecosystem&#039; seems a bit unfairly limited&quot; given that &quot;Canonical and Ubuntu actively contribute to GNOME and KDE&quot; is not overly convincing. To me, the contributions to Gnome and KDE seem minimal. There are a few Canonical developers, for example Ridell who works on KDE, but they contribute very little. To me, they seem largely absorbed in Ubuntu-only projects.

If you disagree, please feel free to explain what contributions Canonical employees actually made/make to Gnome and KDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin, I think you have done a good job putting this whole issue into perspective with regard to the competition between canonical, novell and red hat.</p>
<p>However, your argument that &#8220;Greg’s &#8216;Linux ecosystem&#8217; seems a bit unfairly limited&#8221; given that &#8220;Canonical and Ubuntu actively contribute to GNOME and KDE&#8221; is not overly convincing. To me, the contributions to Gnome and KDE seem minimal. There are a few Canonical developers, for example Ridell who works on KDE, but they contribute very little. To me, they seem largely absorbed in Ubuntu-only projects.</p>
<p>If you disagree, please feel free to explain what contributions Canonical employees actually made/make to Gnome and KDE.</p>
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		<title>By: ruel24</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, nathandbb, Mandriva is doing the very same thing you outline Canonical is doing - making something primarily for the home/small business desktop. It contributes to the kernel and is a small company. So there is no excuse why Canonical can&#039;t do the very same thing. I know Mandriva isn&#039;t on the same level of contribution as Red Hat or Novell, but it&#039;s there.

Second, part of the beef with Canonical is that they spend so much of their resources marketing Ubuntu, yet don&#039;t give all that much back to the development of Linux as a whole. Part of the reason Ubuntu has the popularity it has is that Canonical markets the heck out of it. So why aren&#039;t they spending more of their resources on development?

There are lots of distros out there that don&#039;t give anything back at all. I use a small distro that can&#039;t afford to develop for the kernel, KDE, Gnome, or anything else. But a distro the size of Ubuntu, that reportedly spends about 10 million a year in development and marketing, could at least spend part of that giving back to those that make it posssible at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, nathandbb, Mandriva is doing the very same thing you outline Canonical is doing &#8211; making something primarily for the home/small business desktop. It contributes to the kernel and is a small company. So there is no excuse why Canonical can&#8217;t do the very same thing. I know Mandriva isn&#8217;t on the same level of contribution as Red Hat or Novell, but it&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>Second, part of the beef with Canonical is that they spend so much of their resources marketing Ubuntu, yet don&#8217;t give all that much back to the development of Linux as a whole. Part of the reason Ubuntu has the popularity it has is that Canonical markets the heck out of it. So why aren&#8217;t they spending more of their resources on development?</p>
<p>There are lots of distros out there that don&#8217;t give anything back at all. I use a small distro that can&#8217;t afford to develop for the kernel, KDE, Gnome, or anything else. But a distro the size of Ubuntu, that reportedly spends about 10 million a year in development and marketing, could at least spend part of that giving back to those that make it posssible at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: September 20th, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: September 20th, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fahr99</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2, one could put even more emphasis on this aspect: Many have tried their best to create a distro with a broad scope and appeal, to conquer new territory for GNU/Linux. Some failed and disappeared more or less (Corel Linux, Lindows), some succeeded partly (Mandrake/Mandriva). (k)ubuntu has done so many right things (like such a &#039;simple&#039; thing as doing ubuntu/kubuntu), and been lucky, and more, giving them this tremendous momentum. I can only speculate what could motivate a man of gregkh&#039;s format to this kind of bickering. 

gregkh&#039;s &quot;core&quot; is important. So is the desktop, so is the zest of ubuntu, and so is &#039;selling&#039; it all to the world. Let each do what they do best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2, one could put even more emphasis on this aspect: Many have tried their best to create a distro with a broad scope and appeal, to conquer new territory for GNU/Linux. Some failed and disappeared more or less (Corel Linux, Lindows), some succeeded partly (Mandrake/Mandriva). (k)ubuntu has done so many right things (like such a &#8217;simple&#8217; thing as doing ubuntu/kubuntu), and been lucky, and more, giving them this tremendous momentum. I can only speculate what could motivate a man of gregkh&#8217;s format to this kind of bickering. </p>
<p>gregkh&#8217;s &#8220;core&#8221; is important. So is the desktop, so is the zest of ubuntu, and so is &#8217;selling&#8217; it all to the world. Let each do what they do best.</p>
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